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	<title>Comments on: Starting something new (part 2): the voice</title>
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		<title>By: Katina Wright</title>
		<link>http://www.mgharris.net/2009/06/21/starting-something-new-part-2-the-voice/#comment-1826</link>
		<dc:creator>Katina Wright</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Jun 2009 19:31:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Exciting to know that you&#039;re working on a new project.

As an author in training I&#039;m sure I can&#039;t give you advice. But what I did with the novel I&#039;m writing at the moment is write journals from two of the main characters POV. I couldn&#039;t decide which character&#039;s POV to write the novel from. As it turned out I needed both character&#039;s POV to make the story work. Writing their journals for them really helped me get to know them &amp; their voices. 

Kat :-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Exciting to know that you&#8217;re working on a new project.</p>
<p>As an author in training I&#8217;m sure I can&#8217;t give you advice. But what I did with the novel I&#8217;m writing at the moment is write journals from two of the main characters POV. I couldn&#8217;t decide which character&#8217;s POV to write the novel from. As it turned out I needed both character&#8217;s POV to make the story work. Writing their journals for them really helped me get to know them &amp; their voices. </p>
<p>Kat <img src='http://www.mgharris.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: solv</title>
		<link>http://www.mgharris.net/2009/06/21/starting-something-new-part-2-the-voice/#comment-1820</link>
		<dc:creator>solv</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Jun 2009 09:30:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;d reason that the plot is a functional device, designed to set up dynamism, predominantly points of emotional revelations. But the reader is fed the emotions through any given pov. (Re-reading Ali Smith&#039;s &#039;The Accidental&#039; in which the same story is recounted by five separate povs, ergo five different emotional experiences.)
If we&#039;re teetering on the precipice of the plot vs character debate, I&#039;d agree with Bob McKee, that the two are inextricably linked. One informs, the other delivers. That said, I think a great voice with little plot to draw from would likely be more successful that a great plot experienced through a weak pov.
Great question MG. My answer is: Voice comes first, and then voice and plot are perfectly married in second pass. Picking a pov should be a technical decision, because each pov has its own strengths and weaknesses. You want character depth, you&#039;re in first; you want free reign plotting suspense, then maybe third omniscient. And then tense! So what do you want? Where do you fancy exploring next? :o)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;d reason that the plot is a functional device, designed to set up dynamism, predominantly points of emotional revelations. But the reader is fed the emotions through any given pov. (Re-reading Ali Smith&#8217;s &#8216;The Accidental&#8217; in which the same story is recounted by five separate povs, ergo five different emotional experiences.)<br />
If we&#8217;re teetering on the precipice of the plot vs character debate, I&#8217;d agree with Bob McKee, that the two are inextricably linked. One informs, the other delivers. That said, I think a great voice with little plot to draw from would likely be more successful that a great plot experienced through a weak pov.<br />
Great question MG. My answer is: Voice comes first, and then voice and plot are perfectly married in second pass. Picking a pov should be a technical decision, because each pov has its own strengths and weaknesses. You want character depth, you&#8217;re in first; you want free reign plotting suspense, then maybe third omniscient. And then tense! So what do you want? Where do you fancy exploring next? <img src='http://www.mgharris.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_surprised.gif' alt=':o' class='wp-smiley' /> )</p>
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		<title>By: Kate</title>
		<link>http://www.mgharris.net/2009/06/21/starting-something-new-part-2-the-voice/#comment-1816</link>
		<dc:creator>Kate</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Jun 2009 20:19:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A fascinating post Maria - I&#039;m finding these writing ones of yours particularly interesting. This is one I can really relate to - it took me several aborted starts to finally fing the voice of the MC in my new WIP but once that fell into place then I was away!

I&#039;m looking forward to seeing what this new idea of yours develops into!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A fascinating post Maria &#8211; I&#8217;m finding these writing ones of yours particularly interesting. This is one I can really relate to &#8211; it took me several aborted starts to finally fing the voice of the MC in my new WIP but once that fell into place then I was away!</p>
<p>I&#8217;m looking forward to seeing what this new idea of yours develops into!!</p>
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		<title>By: MG</title>
		<link>http://www.mgharris.net/2009/06/21/starting-something-new-part-2-the-voice/#comment-1812</link>
		<dc:creator>MG</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Jun 2009 10:17:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Rich - an intervention, or else may I suggest that your heart isn&#039;t in it? Maybe it&#039;s time to play with something new...something that gets you going? The work re other thing not wasted, it&#039;s always good to have some projects in the lab to resurrect later When The Time Is Right.

Susie, ooh goody, I look forward to hearing about Possible New Book! And the side project too...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rich &#8211; an intervention, or else may I suggest that your heart isn&#8217;t in it? Maybe it&#8217;s time to play with something new&#8230;something that gets you going? The work re other thing not wasted, it&#8217;s always good to have some projects in the lab to resurrect later When The Time Is Right.</p>
<p>Susie, ooh goody, I look forward to hearing about Possible New Book! And the side project too&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Susie</title>
		<link>http://www.mgharris.net/2009/06/21/starting-something-new-part-2-the-voice/#comment-1811</link>
		<dc:creator>Susie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Jun 2009 23:01:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ooh, so exciting to hear it&#039;s progressed to that stage!  (Clearly you are doing write-one-edit-one-think-up-new-one: impressive!  I&#039;m sticking with drink-one-eat-one-write-one-sentence at the minute.  I refer to tea and sandwiches of course.)

I think I get 80% of the voice sorted in the first few weeks of writing 1st person (albeit after masses of false starts), because my focus is much more on voice than on story - but sometimes that final 20% is what really makes the whole thing work, and that comes in the edit. I&#039;m putting together the opening few thousand of Possible New Book right now, and getting the voice right is what&#039;s going to make it work. No pressure then...

Then again, I&#039;m doing exactly the same thing as you with a side project: have played with some 1st person, now some 3rd person intimate, which already feels like a better fit for the story.  I&#039;m so out of practice though!

Being on a massive story-roll sounds great.  Go Joshua4!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ooh, so exciting to hear it&#8217;s progressed to that stage!  (Clearly you are doing write-one-edit-one-think-up-new-one: impressive!  I&#8217;m sticking with drink-one-eat-one-write-one-sentence at the minute.  I refer to tea and sandwiches of course.)</p>
<p>I think I get 80% of the voice sorted in the first few weeks of writing 1st person (albeit after masses of false starts), because my focus is much more on voice than on story &#8211; but sometimes that final 20% is what really makes the whole thing work, and that comes in the edit. I&#8217;m putting together the opening few thousand of Possible New Book right now, and getting the voice right is what&#8217;s going to make it work. No pressure then&#8230;</p>
<p>Then again, I&#8217;m doing exactly the same thing as you with a side project: have played with some 1st person, now some 3rd person intimate, which already feels like a better fit for the story.  I&#8217;m so out of practice though!</p>
<p>Being on a massive story-roll sounds great.  Go Joshua4!</p>
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		<title>By: Richard Howse</title>
		<link>http://www.mgharris.net/2009/06/21/starting-something-new-part-2-the-voice/#comment-1808</link>
		<dc:creator>Richard Howse</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Jun 2009 05:58:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Took me 10 months to get the opening chapters, with viewpoint, voice and style right.

And I&#039;m still there another 3 months on (having done nothing - oops). I think I need an intervention.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Took me 10 months to get the opening chapters, with viewpoint, voice and style right.</p>
<p>And I&#8217;m still there another 3 months on (having done nothing &#8211; oops). I think I need an intervention.</p>
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